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It tries to upload now but they seem to be too large now…
Standard iPhone screenshots.

Sure I know about all the hosting services but it is a real pain when you have to do this on a smartphone.

Wemo connect screen:

Supported Services:

edit by leader21 : took care about the pictures gonna see what’s up with the max file size…

Great sure with the smartphone pixel density screenshots get huge. I guess I need to resize them…

Writing a workflow for this.

file size is max 2MB, that should be enough for a picture, even if it’s a screenshot from your mobile. strange.ok so far, let’s see go back to topic

Are there some news about google assistant and pimatic?

@FrostedKiwi Did you test if pimatic-echo works with Google Assistant, too?

@Swen If you have one you can test yourself.

Assistant ist build in Android Smartphones with new update. There is only an IFTTT Solution, but a bad solution. Would be more interesting to find Pimatic via Assistant App via Pimatic Plugin. Otherway there is a Tasker solution but i don’t like this.

Sadly google seems to solely rely on cloud services for smarthome…
I tried to add it via echo before and after the last update so with Wemo/Hue emulation and it never did find any local devices. (Basically there is no real way of searching for them)

If you select either Wemo or Hue you get redirected to their oauth services so it might work via cloud if you could add the fake wemo or hue devices to the original manufacturer app/cloud.

I think for proper integreation there we really need to create our own pimatic cloud or create a connection to a trusted generic IOT platform supported bei Google.

@thex I don’t like the idea to “open” my smart home to the public internet.

@michbeck100 said in Google Assistant - Start building Actions on Google:

@thex I don’t like the idea to “open” my smart home to the public internet.

Me neither but if you want to use it I think there is no other way. I think if we don’t introduce/create some cloud connectivity this will drasticly impact the adoption of pimatic in the future.

I think there are ways to do this in a sufficiently secure manner so that I would agree to use it.

• Reverse connection to the cloud via proven web standards
  • using SSL/TLS and websockets or MQTT
  • no listening ports open
  • should also solve necessity to set up static IP/dynDns
• Using oAuth with different levels of access which can be easily revoked
• No own user management, use oAuth framework for authenticating via google/facebook/amazon etc.
• Very “loud” notifications for failed login attempts or similar.
• Selective control on which devices can be controlled and also which functions (status only, change, change only specific properties)

@michbeck100 This i agree 100%.

It also has the most wonderful by-product of improved responsiveness through decreased latency.

Hi,
due to the crazy low pricing of Google Home devices last week, I bought a Google Home Mini to play little bit around with it. Clear that I was trying to make it somehow working with Pimatic, till now I had no success.
IFTTT and webhooks would be the preferred way, but this works only from the web. I want only to have access from outside via VPN, this variant will not work.
Searched in the net, but found no information’s to make for example http post on lokal network working.
Now I will got the way over an old smartphone equipped with tasker.

Any elegant idea for it?

@ortin did you try https://github.com/bwssytems/ha-bridge/issues/626

Not yet, but will check it this week.

Temporary I made it via IFTTT, Telegram and Tasker (on a old phone which is my network). Works well with a little delay of course, but no problems till now and it is more secure as to open a port to the www.
Will made a small tutorial.

@ortin if you like you can check the latest commit of pimatic-echo. I used a lot of the changes from ha-bridge. maybe it works with Google Home. But there will be no support, as I can’t test anything.

Will check this evening, thanks for that.
If you interested you currently can buy the Google stuff really cheap. I bought it for 16€ on Otto.de. As I remember there is also the possibility to get it for free with a special code as new customer, but you have to by something else for min. 40€ (a x-mas gift for somebody…).

Unfortunately it does not work. Will have a look into what is different in openHAB.

@ortin Please make sure that you are running pimatic-echo on port 80 for Google Home, too. Seems that this is the same issue like with the new echoes.

The echo-plugin port is set on 80, due to my Echo2 setup. My new echo was switched of before I start the device discovery with version 5.0. Only my Google Home devices were present. I think the problem is that Hue use a new initialization since some weeks. In the openHAB forum, new user are not able to get it working. See this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwVga-Hr9Q

Hue initialization now looks like it does in the Alexa app. Seems something changed there. When you maybe get it working that the hue skill recognize the echo-plugin as hue brigde it will work as well that it will work for sure for all smart home assistant systems.

@ortin I don’t think i will take the road to completely implement this. Apart from this, the Philips hue skill connects at first to the Hue Cloud and then to your home.