[Solved] When sunrise then...

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Hey Guys,

Im new here and I got my first berry a weeks before. My laziness brought me to this lovely tool so called pimatic.
The framework is running great. The goal is to automate my vivarium with an asian leaf turtle in it.

Now Im setting up the rules but they are not applied. Would someone have a look into my config.

rules": [

    {
      "id": "led-leiste",
      "name": "LED Leiste an",
      "rule": "when its 7h after sunrise and led-stripe is turned off and if its before sunset  then turn led-stripe on",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },
    {
      "id": "led-leiste-aus",
      "name": "LED Leiste aus",
      "rule": "when its 7h after sunset and led-stripe is turned on and if its after sunrise then turn led-stripe off",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },
    {
      "id": "tageslicht-an",
      "name": "Tageslicht an",
      "rule": "when its 9h after sunrise and tageslicht is turned off and if its before sunset then turn tageslicht on",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },
    {
      "id": "tageslicht-aus",
      "name": "Tageslicht aus",
      "rule": "when its 8h after sunset and tageslicht is turned on and if its after sunrise then turn tageslicht off",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    }
  ],

Thanks for your time and best regards,
Andre

Try this

"when its 7 h after sunrise and led-stripe is turned off and if its before sunset then turn led-stripe on"

instead of this

"when its 7h after sunrise and led-stripe is turned off and if its before sunset  then turn led-stripe on"

Added a space between 7 and h and removed one space before then

"when its 7h after sunset and led-stripe is turned on and if its after sunrise then turn led-stripe off"

It couldn’t be after sunset and after sunrise

I will give it a try and report! Thanks for your fast reply.

"when its 9h after sunrise and tageslicht is turned off and if its before sunset then turn tageslicht on"

“is turned on” only works just in this moment, when the light is turned on. What you are looking for is

when power of tageslicht is off

This mistake is part of all your rules.

Now im getting a different error.

"error [pimatic]: Could not parse rule “when its 7 h after sunset and power of led-stripe is on then turn led-stripe off”: Could not find an provider that decides next predicate of “power of led-stripe is on”., Expected a new predicate after last “and”.

This is how it looks now. I removed the last check for sunrise and sunset.

{
      "id": "led-leiste",
      "name": "LED Leiste an",
      "rule": "when its 7 h after sunrise and power of led-stripe is off then turn led-stripe on",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },

Mhh that doesn’t seem to be possible. What’s possible is that:

When power of schlafzimmer is off and if it is after sunset then after 7 hours turn schlafzimmer on

But of course, there could happen a lot during the 7 hours. It’s no good solution.

Thanks for your time.
I have to use the 7h term because my sunrise plugin is pulling information from Vietnam.
There is an offset time of 7 h. Im trying to avoid that the light goes on at 4 a.m. german time.

BR,
Andre

I got it:

When power of schlafzimmer is off and it is 7 hours after sunset then turn schlafzimmer on

Just remove the if in the when clause.

Why are you using Vietnam? :D`
Does Power work? I´m using state

Yes it works. I also use it on my rules.
I think it depends on the device type. Milight devices have power and switches have state.

Seems legit but still not working. No errors showing up…
Thats how it looks now

{
      "id": "led-leiste",
      "name": "LED Leiste an",
      "rule": "when led-stripe is turned off and it is 7 h after sunrise then turn led-stripe on",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },
    {
      "id": "led-leiste-aus",
      "name": "LED Leiste aus",
      "rule": "when led-stripe is turned on and it is 7 h after sunset then turn led-stripe off",
      "active": true,
      "logging": true
    },

@michael-rudek said in When sunrise then...:

Why are you using Vietnam? :D`
Does Power work? I´m using state

I have to use it because I want to imitate all the climatic information from Vietnam (asian leaf turtle) into my vivarium.
If the sun rises in Vietnam at 7:06 am then the lamps should go on at the same time. I dont want to set the time manually. It has to be updated by the sunrise plugin.

Now the plugin shows a sunrise time from 00:09 a.m because my raspi is located in Germany. <- And thats why I have to add the 7H offset time.

Change

“rule”: “when led-stripe is turned off and it is 7 h after sunrise then turn led-stripe on”

to

“rule”: “when power of led-stripe is off and it is 7 h after sunrise then turn led-stripe on”

That works but is only triggered exactly in the moment when the 7h are gone.

Maybe you could calculate the moment and write it to a variable. The the rule triggers as long it’s later than variable.

@saxnpaule said in When sunrise then...:

Maybe you could calculate the moment and write it to a variable. The the rule triggers as long it’s later than variable.

I would need help doing so. But it sounds like this is the only way to solve my issues with the rules.

Have a look here: https://forum.pimatic.org/topic/3170/some-help-for-setting-variable

date() is what you’re looking for.

Try this:

When its 7 h after sunset then set $sunset-offset to date("hh:mm")

When power of schlafzimmer is off and it is after $sunset-offset then turn schlafzimmer on

@saxnpaule said in When sunrise then...:

Try this:

When its 7 h after sunset then set $sunset-offset to date("hh:mm")

When power of schlafzimmer is off and it is after $sunset-offset then turn schlafzimmer on

Wow, this seems to work!
I will try it now with my other rules and report.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,
André

Hey all,
thanks for your efforts so far! Still locking good but further testing ongoing.
That´s the actual status:

  "id": "led-leiste",
  "name": "LED Leiste an",
  "rule": "when state of LED-Stripe is off and it is after $sunrise-Offset and before $sunset-offset then turn led-stripe on",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "tageslicht-aus",
  "name": "Tageslicht aus",
  "rule": "when state of Tageslicht is on and it is after $sunset-tageslicht then turn tageslicht off",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "sunset-offset",
  "name": "LED Sunset Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 6 h before sunset then set $sunset-offset to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "led-leiste-2",
  "name": "LED Leiste aus",
  "rule": "when state of LED-Stripe is on and it is after $sunset-offset then turn led-stripe off",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "tageslicht_an",
  "name": "Tageslicht an",
  "rule": "when state of Tageslicht is off and it is after $sunrise-tageslicht and before $sunset-tageslicht then turn tageslicht on",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "lucky_reptile_an",
  "name": "Lucky Reptile an",
  "rule": "when state of Lucky Reptile Jungle is off and it is after $sunrise-lucky and before $sunset-lucky then turn Lucky Reptile Jungle on",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "lucky_reptile_aus",
  "name": "Lucky Reptile aus",
  "rule": "when state of Lucky Reptile Jungle is on and it is after $sunset-lucky then turn Lucky Reptile Jungle off",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "sunrise-offset",
  "name": "LED Sunrise Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 6 h before sunrise then set $sunrise-Offset to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "lucky-offset",
  "name": "Lucky Sunrise Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 1 h before sunrise then set $sunrise-lucky to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "lucky-offset-2",
  "name": "Lucky Sunset Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 10 h before sunset then set $sunset-lucky to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "tageslicht-offset",
  "name": "Tageslicht Sunrise Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 5 h before sunrise then set $sunrise-tageslicht to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
},
{
  "id": "tageslicht-sunset-offset",
  "name": "Tageslicht Sunset Offset",
  "rule": "when it is 7 h before sunset then set $sunset-tageslicht to date(\"hh:mm\")",
  "active": true,
  "logging": true
}

Hey Guys!

I would need your help again. Unfortunately its still not working correctly.
Please have a look at my offset variables. The date is set correctly.

Keep in mind that I changed my raspi location to asia - Hồ Chí Minh timezone. I had to do this because I want to display the correct sunrise and sunset time. -> Thats why im using the offset variable.

Here comes the actual issue. My rule to turn off LED-Stripe is not working because the variable $sunset-offset is set to 00:06 o clock. It´s quite difficult to explain -.- I´ll try to give you as many information as possible.

Please forget about the other rules. They are not correct. We are just talking about the Offset rules and LED rules.
Talking about the times:
Our target timezone is Ha Noi - Vietnam. They are 6 h later than German time.
When the sun rises in Vietnam (~6 a.m.) it´s 12 a.m. in Germany. Thats why I have to use the offset variable.
When the sun goes down in Vietnam (~6 p.m) it´s 00:06 a.m next day in Germany. <- I think this is the issue because Pimatic and the variable do not recognize that the date changed to the next day.

I would really appreciate your help! After getting this to work there is an other problem upcoming. I want to regulate the temperature based on the weather data from Ha Noi. I will run in issues because of the time again.

Would it be better to work with a database collecting all the weather data with time stamps?

Best regards,
André