Change State of Button , or Rule Action?

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Hello together

At first to all Developer - GREAT JOB!

I am working on a Pimatic Prototyp for my own Home Automation and have some Questions:
I want to control a Home Latching circuit, therefor i am using an MCP23017 as Portmodul Addition. I have installed the Johnny Five Plugin and defined an input to get the state of the active circuit (“class”: “JohnnyFiveButton”) The Output Actor is a switch (“class”: “JohnnyFiveSwitch”) defined to control “Latching relays”! -> both runs awesome.

But how to change the switch State (optical) without switching the output?
The reason is : Its nessecary that the Pimatic System knows and display the right state also when the circuit is switch ON from external. So how can I trigger that!?

For some Tests I created a Button Device with ON/OFF to control two rules: “If ButtonDevice ON is pressed and JohnnyFiveButton is opened than switch on JohnnyFiveSwitch for 1second” -> it does the job - but very awkward, or not? And you can’t see the circuit state in the GUI optical.

I read a lot about how to toggle a switch, but each way ends that the switches really switched there state when a rule toggle them!?

Sorry for my great English words…

GREEETZ

@fuerst2626 Hi there, thanks for the positive feedback. Unfortunately, latching relays aren’t specifically supported right now and I am also not familiar with this type of relay. If understood you correctly, your latching relay is triggered by single output line which toggles the relay (ON / OFF). Additionally, you have a (digital) input line which indicates the relay state (say, HIGH is On and LOW means off)? Is that right?

Hey mwittig,

yes your discription is right. I want to use latching relays with two turnkeys, one for the high power line and one for pimatic feedback. My Test-Workaround is doing a great job and I think only the output signal is a little bit different to normal relays (only a short peak of voltage), so no matter. My online Problem is to display the right state - easily - not with 2 Rules and a Buttonlayout!

So how does the other people get the curcuit state into pimatic , if they are toggle them externly!?
Or do you only switch by pimatic and standalone externly?

But perhaps I have overlooked something?

Good Night

You need a feedback from the relay by (for example) mqtt.
Maybe a Sonoff with Tasmota or ESPeasy wouldt be the right choice. You can configure the Sonoff(Tasmota) to use one of the Pins as an extra Button. It will send its state back to Pimatic.

@fuerst2626 said in Change State of Button , or Rule Action?:

But perhaps I have overlooked something?

Note, there is a device class “JohnnyFiveRelay” which is based on the relay API of J5. However, the relay API is pretty basic and does not provide feedback input for external state change you may have with latching relays. I think I can provide an extended device class for this use case, but it will take some time to progress on this. I am not sure whether or not Sonoff with Tasmota or ESPeasy can help here as suggested by @Michael-Rudek

For clarity it will be great if you can provide a wiring sketch of your setup, e.g. Fritzing sketch or simply a photo of the sketch on paper. Thanks

… a little sketch to take a look!
The big circuit is a scheme of a transistor or optocouplers circuit to get the voltage in the right level! The circuit is in Build!

@michael-rudek said in Change State of Button , or Rule Action?:

You need a feedback from the relay by (for example) mqtt.
Maybe a Sonoff with Tasmota or ESPeasy wouldt be the right choice. You can configure the Sonoff(Tasmota) to use one of the Pins as an extra Button. It will send its state back to Pimatic.

I don’t want to use special Relays or some extra stuff. I want to build a standard home circuit with standard components. So Sonoff isn’t a solution.

At the Point - my workaround circuit is doing everything I want. But I want it easy and without so much extra buttons and rules inside pimatic!
My question is about how to build it easily inside Pimatic!?

NOTE: The relay in the sketch or in my circuit is a Finder 20.22.9!

Hello together,

no more ideas or solutions?