Probleme bei RF türklingel

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hallo leute,
ich versuche die letzten tage wirklich intensiv meine funktürklingel mit pimatic zu verknüpfen, es handelt sich dabei um eine silvercrest klingel welche anscheinend auch schon erfolgreich in betrieb genommen wurde. ([klingel])(http://www.lidl.de/de/silvercrest-funk-tuerklingel/p218600?searchTrackingQuery=klingel&searchTrackingId=Product.218600&searchTrackingPos=2&searchTrackingOrigPos=2&searchTrackingRelevancy=90.93&searchTrackingPage=1&searchTrackingPageSize=36&searchTrackingOrigPageSize=36)

in der homeduino debug ansicht tut sich aber nichts wenn ich auf den sender drücke, natürlich hab ich die funktion mit einer fernbedienung von funksteckdosen überprüft…
vielleicht hat ja jemand einen tipp für mich.
vielen dank

@Nikolov does your homeduino receiver work properly? Do you have debug enabled in homeduino? Does the bell work on 433mhz?

ist es dieselbe Version SilverCrest Z31370A Bauj. 12/2015
wie @gleno0h sagte - kommt denn in den homeduino debug nachrichten was an?

is it the same Version SilverCrest Z31370A from 12/2015
as gleno0h said - are there any debug infos?

ja es ist die gleiche version, der homeduino empfänger funktioniert einwandfrei, alle anderen geräte werden im debug screen angezeigt, ich hab auch die frequenz der klingel mit meinem rtl-sdr gecheckt (hat 433mhz)

yup it’s the same version, the homeduino receiver works perfectly, all the other devices are shown in the debug screen. i’ve checked the frequency of the bell with my rtl-sdr, it’s at 433mhz, maybe it sends something like a rolling code, which the homeduino cant handle?

@Nikolov

Kommt denn beim Debug irgendetwas rein wenn man auf die Klingel drückt? Zumindest die Rohdaten sollten angezeigt werden. Ist denn die Funktion mit dem Originalempfänger gegeben? Wurde der Taster schon mal in unmittelbarer Nähe zum Empfänger betätigt (wegen Reichweitenproblem)?

nicht mal rohdaten kommen an, reichweitenprobleme können ausgeschlossen werden, das ganze zeug liegt direkt neben meinem notebook, der empfänger, also die klingel, springt auch an wenn ich ich den sender drück…

@Nikolov The device model SilverCrest Z31370A mentioned by @leader21 is included in the list of supported deviced at - https://forum.pimatic.org/topic/35/supported-devices-plug-and-play. The device information refers to the same link as the one contained in your first post.Can you please check the model number of you device?

@Nikolov

Hm, vielleicht sind es doch nicht 433MHz? Reicht ja schon, wenn der Frequenzbereich etwas verschoben ist (obwohl das nicht zulässig wäre).

ok it’s really exactly the same as shown in the plug and play devices list.

but maybe the frequency is the problem, my rtl-sdr locate the transmitter more at 434mhz than 433mhz… dont know if that could be a problem?

@Nikolov said in Probleme bei RF türklingel:

more at 434mhz than 433mhz

Your rtl-sdr is working well. Actually, the ISM center frequency used for device RF is 433,92 Mhz. When 433MHz is mentioned, they actually mean 433.92 MHz, some also call it 434 MHz.

Can you please check the model number of your door bell device?

the model number of the Device is Z31370A

@Nikolov said in Probleme bei RF türklingel:

the model number of the Device is Z31370A

Ok, thanks. Sorry, I overlook that you already said it is the same version.

@Nikolov rtl-sdr is a rf receiver if im correct?

Then it is strange that one receiver can see it and the other one not. Did you try pressing the bell real close to the receiver?

Please try this the following;

Go into the raspberry pi, execute;

sudo service pimatic stop

Or, if you didnt install as a service do this to stop pimatic;

sudo pimatic.js stop

Now execute;

sudo pimatic.js

Now you will see pimatic starting, when it is all done, press the doorbell and copy the output to this thread.

@Gleno0h yeah rtl-sdr is a rf-receiver, but i run the sdr on my notebook, not on the raspi!

that would be great if i can post you the ouput but theres no one
i’ve done it like you wrote but i can hit the doorbell as often as i want… no output… nothing,
if i hit a button of a rf-remote it shows correctly different protocols… so the receiver of my homeduino works i think…

@Nikolov well, if the sticker of the device tells you it is 433mhz, if another receiver can pick it up, and if there is no debug data, then i am lost. One last question, what version of homeduino and pimatic do you have. Full versions please.

If there is a update for one of them, update it.

pimatic is 0.9.42
homeduino is 0.9.11

what makes me super stupid is the fact that some user of pimatic list the doorbell in the plugandplay list?!?!

@Nikolov said in Probleme bei RF türklingel:

what makes me super stupid is the fact that some user of pimatic list the doorbell in the plugandplay list?!?!

Yes, that’s why I asked about the model. Maybe it is a newer make. Does the model number also tells “Version 12/2015”? If it is not stated on the model plate check the State of Compliance as part of the user manual.

oooo shit, now i see the difference, the model which i own is from 12/2013 sorry guys

@mwittig could you maybe go into details about why homeduino doesnt see any rf?

Shouldnt it atleast display raw data or something?

what’s worth a try to change the homeduino firmware with the one described here.
https://forum.pimatic.org/topic/3065/homeduino-doesn-t-detect-first-single-transfer/

@theothermarcus @mwittig do you have any more information about this?