[Solved] Sunset rule doesn´t work

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What am I doing wrong ?
My rule is like this :

“if its after sunset and before sunrise and PIR is present then turn on switch”

I´ve tried with and without brackets. Other rules like “if its sunset send mail” and “if PIR is present then turn on switch” works fine.

Thanks for your answers

Christopher

@Christopher-Pütz Did you try after sunset or before sunrise? As far as I understand this after sunset and before sunrise does not yield true as today the sunrise time has already been passed if sunset has been passed and tomorrow, before sunrise the sunset time has not been passed yet. In other words, sunset and sunrise yield of the times for sunset and sunrise events of the current day. That’s a problem if you want to capture the time span between sunset and sunrise.

what exactly does not work? saving the rule works for me like that

does the execution of the rule fail?
you can save the rule but it does not work?
if so mwittig’s post above is the answer for why it’s not working.
maybe you can create some workaround

After sunset and before Sunrise does not work because it never can be true. Because 00:00 a clock is a new day. So after 00:00 the predicate after sunset can not be true. And mußte be after sunset or before Sunrise.

After sunset and before Sunrise does not work because it never can be true.

Yes, exactly. That’s what I tried to explain in my earlier post. I think this should be documented as “Common Pitfalls” in the README file, for the minority of users reading README files and user documentation

So thats right, “just” the execution fails
I will try “or” instead of “and”.
But “after” one thing that repeats everyday is always before the next one.
So perhaps its just not precise enough. And at 0:00 it will always change.

But first I will give “after sunset or before sunrise” a try.

ok i give you an example:

lets say sunset is at 20:00 and sunrise at 07:00:

then this rule is true from 20:00 to 07:00

if it is after sunset or before sunrise then..........

this rule is true from 00:00 to 07:00

if its before sunrise then..........

this rule is true from 20:00 to 00:00

if it is after sunset then...

this rule can never be true because it can not before sunrise AND after sunset because 00:00 the day starts new. and from that point it can not be after sunset.

if it is after sunset and before sunrise then....

but here is an example with and here you have to use and, because both predicates can be true because they are between 00:00 to 23:59

if it is after sunrise and before sunset then...

Sorry for my late response,

thank you for your supprt, it´s now working.

Logically I have understood, but for “normal” use it cuold be more intuitive, like “between sunrise and sunset” or something like this.

To define it better there could be perhaps a predicate “sunrise of today” (or tomorrow" but it isn´t much better.
In some cases you can find a solution in other cases, its more difficult to find a solution with variables etc.

Thank you all for the help

Christopher

In pimatic 9 this does not work:

when it is after sunrise and before sunset and every 1 minute then log \"Sun is on\"

And also do not know how to determine who sunrise I mean, if I have more than one location in Pimatic.

@wutu said in [Solved] Sunset rule doesn´t work:

and every 1 minute then

Can you please restart pimatic and check if it is working then?

If the previous step does not succeed, can you please try without and every 1 minute?

Thanks!

Unfortunately, in both cases after the restart and nothing.
My device:

{
      "attributes": [
        {
          "name": "dawn",
          "label": "dawn"
        },
        {
          "name": "sunrise",
          "label": "Sunrise"
        },
        {
          "name": "solarNoon",
          "label": "solarNoon"
        },
        {
          "name": "sunset",
          "label": "Sunset"
        },
        {
          "name": "dusk",
          "label": "dusk"
        }
      ],
      "id": "rio-amazonas-manaus",
      "name": "Rio Amazonas Manaus",
      "class": "SunriseDevice",
      "latitude": -3.122601,
      "longitude": -59.552429
    }

http://blog.kail.cz/sites/default/files/Pimatic/sunrice_dev_brasil.png